The Climat Chronicles: Fake Lancome Climat & the Quest for the Real Thing

 

 

The subject of this article is not the original Climat parfum from 1967. Nor is it the much later La Collection reissue from 2005. This article is written specifically about the Climat parfum of the 1980s and 1990s in the bright blue marble-ized box, with the deep, olive-green juice. This Climat is a source of longing for thousands of women (many of them from the former Soviet Union), and it is proving increasingly elusive to procure.

At this time, many vintage Climat lovers , like me, are in a fragrance crisis.  We have smelled the nectar of the gods and surrendered to it. It is a scent that wraps us around its elegantly tapered finger, and we do not resist. Indeed, we rush forward, committing to it. Its beauty shocks us with its tart citrus and peach notes splashed by subtle aldehydes and laid transparently over a floral heart of rose, lily, jasmine, and narcissus…and the light sweetness of an unusual amber , giving the whole thing a fresh, powdery innocence and heralding the warm, high-quality sandalwood/vetiver drydown. I’m enslaved.  So I seek it out. I shell out hundreds of dollars for half an ounce of ambrosial dew. And then, like Icarus who got  too close to the sun, I am burned. And devastated. Over and over again, my efforts thwarted. I huddle in a corner, whimpering, scratching the paint off the wall with my fingernails. A woman on the edge, like Farrah Fawcet in ‘The Burning Bed.’  Okay fine, so maybe it’s not that bad. But still, it’s pretty annoying! The tide of fake vintage Climat on the market is overwhelming. So what the heck is a Climat lover to do?

In the following FAQ  I will try to shed some light. All of the pictures in this blog post are of REAL vintage Climat.

I just bought a 14 ml bottle of vintage Climat parfum. Why doesn’t it smell right?

The 14 ml vintage parfum is the most faked version of Climat. The reason for this is simple: supply and demand. There is a strong demand for this version because in the 1980s many women in the former Soviet Union and other locales  had access to this scent, and wore it. They loved the fragrance and now have fond memories of it. But it has been discontinued for a long time. So? The perfume fakers create fake copies of the parfum and pass them off as real in order to meet the demand. Some of the fake parfums smell similar to vintage Climat, some of them do not. Some of them have a strong scent, some of them smell very weak. Still, they are all fake, and some buyers do not even realize that they have received a fake. Real vintage Climat parfum from the 1980s is very rare and does not come on the market often.

Where do these Climat fakes come from?

Many of the fake bottles of Climat come from Eastern Europe/Ukraine/Russia. I have read that some of them are manufactured under license in Netherlands or in the Middle East, but in my experience most fake Climat seems to have strong connections with Ukraine/Russia, which is where the demand is strongest (as well as among expatriates).

How are the fake bottles manufactured?

The fake Climat parfums fall into two categories: 1) fake packaging + fake juice, and 2) recycled authentic packaging + fake juice. Let’s examine both categories

1) The first category includes boxes that are fake, bottles that are fake, braided ribbons that are fake, and they’re filled with perfume that is fake. The packaging and perfume are all imposters, manufactured cheaply and although they resemble real vintage Climat at first glance, they  show inconsistencies in the packaging that demonstrate that they are not authentic.

2) The second category is comprised of authentic  vintage Climat boxes, authentic vintage braided ribbons, and authentic vintage bottles which have been re-filled with fake perfume. In Eastern Europe, there is apparently an active industry which recycles real, used Climat boxes and bottles, and  fills them with fake juice. They appear to be completely legitimate when you look at the packaging , but when you smell the actual perfume and inspect the color visually, it is clear that it is not true Climat: the authentic empty bottle has been refilled with fake perfume. I know of a location in Ukraine where many fakes of this type come from.

Where can I buy real vintage Climat parfum?

Several times a year, there are bottles of real, vintage Climat parfum that appear on Ebay, both U.S. Ebay and Ebay in other countries – and also regional marketplaces like Molotok.ru will sometimes have real bottles of Climat. But they are rare, and it is sometimes difficult for the average Climat-lover to tell a real bottle from a fake bottle.

When did Lancome stop making Climat parfum?

This is a difficult question. I have read from some Russian & Ukrainian women online that in the early 1990s, Climat parfum became difficult to find in those areas. I have also read a post on a Russian message board stating that Climat was, around this time period, being manufactured in the Middle East, and that there was a fire which destroyed many of the raw materials for a planned batch of Climat, but I cannot verify this. I believe that vintage Climat parfum was repackaged in the 1990s and its distribution became very limited. The parfum’s  production had been discontinued by 2001.

What percentage of  vintage Climat parfum on the market is fake?

A huge majority of the vintage 14 ml Climat parfums for sale online are fake. Literally, about 99% of the bottles that you find on Ebay and online etailers are fake bottles. There are not many full bottles of real vintage Climat parfum left in the world. Once in a while, one will come on the market.

 

If a bottle sells for hundreds of dollars, does that mean that it is real?

No. Many of the fake bottles being sold online have prices set at $40.…$100.…$200.…$300…Generally speaking, nearly all of these are fake Climat. Once in a while, a real, authentic bottle of Climat will come on the market and when it does it usually sells for hundreds of dollars. This is the reason that sellers of fake Climat set the price so high: because it makes their product appear to be authentic and rare.

Why do buyers of vintage Climat parfum on Ebay often leave positive feedback?

Out of curiosity, I have contacted some buyers who left positive feedback for the seller of a typically faked Climat. I asked them if  they were happy with the Climat parfum that they received. They wrote back to me with a variety of responses, stating that  1) they bought the perfume to give as a gift, 2) they had actually not opened it and tried it yet, 3) it did not smell like Climat should smell, but it still had a lovely smell, 4) they knew it smelled different but they thought it was due to age, 5) they knew it was fake but it resembled the original quite a bit so they were happy.

Does the 2005 La Collection re-release of Climat in Eau de Parfum smell like vintage Climat?

Although it bears a resemblance to vintage Climat , the 2005 release does not smell identical to it. They reformulated it, and the high-quality natural ingredients which made vintage Climat parfum so lovely were left out of the La Collection release, and it shows.  While the 2005 version is a pretty fragrance on its own, most vintage Climat lovers agree that it does not measure up to the original.

How can I tell real vintage 80s/90s Climat  parfum from fake?

-The lettering on real, authentic bottles of vintage Climat parfum is always the same: the same lettering, the same word order, the same text, the same spacing and measurement between the letters. The letters should be clean and clearly articulated without smudges in the ink. Fake Climat lettering sometimes looks sloppy in comparison to the real thing. The picture to the right is a close-up picture of how the lettering should always look on authentic vintage Climat 14 ml parfum. Click on the image to see the full sized version with my notes included as a general guideline for authentication.

 

 

 

 

 

-Look for Climat juice that has the deep, sparkling, olive-green shown in these pictures. That is the color of real vintage Climat parfum of the time period we are discussing. Nearly all of the fake Climat parfums get the color wrong: sometimes it’s too light, too bright green, too yellow…Real vintage Climat parfum has a very distinctive and consistent color.

 

-Look for a braided ribbon around the neck that is royal-blue and gold-orange. The ribbon should not be black + yellow, it should not be  green + blue.  Sometimes on old authentic bottles, the blue and gold ribbon is tattered or faded.

 

- Climat parfums from the 1980s should come in a marblized blue box without a gold square. There is no bar code on the box, but on the lower side of the box, in small print, is stated “Copyright Lancome 1979.” Inside the top of the box, there is often a shiny Guarantie slip of paper. On the back it may say “Baccarose” and have a batch number stamp.

 

 

 

 

-The box with the gold square came out in the 1990s. Most of the currently manufactured fakes come in this type of box. The gold-square style of packaging may have briefly been released officially by Lancome in the early 1990s – and then widely copied by fakers. For example, this bottle shown in the picture that came in a gold-square box looks to be authentic – but 99% of Climat with the gold square are definitely fake. To find one that may be authentic, look for one with the characteristic deep olive-green juice and with a braided ribbon that is blue and orange and has a pronounced “knitted” texture, like this one. I personally own a bottle that has this blue and orange knitted ribbon and it is absolutely authentic, beautiful vintage Climat. But again, nearly all the Climat on the market that comes in the box with the gold square is fake – it is very rare to find one that is authentic.

 

-If you have questions about vintage Climat, feel free to contact me through this blog. I will give you my most honest and informed answer. I have owned 3 bottles of gorgeous REAL vintage Climat parfum, and I have also owned a few bottles of FAKE vintage perfume. So unfortunately, I have a lot of experience and perspective when it comes to this issue. There is an epidemic of fake Climat perfume right now and people need to know about it. Thanks for reading. Fragrant, Climat-scented wishes for all!

96 Comments to “The Climat Chronicles: Fake Lancome Climat & the Quest for the Real Thing”

  1. My mother once wear Climat by Lankom. Some bottles start to smell different so she stop with Climat and start to wearing Tresor. The Climat she buy probably become fake. Thank you for link to your post, very informatve.

  2. Climat is my first and eternal perfume love. I think the bottle in a box with a golden square that I own is fake (I bought it many years ago from one of the online discounters) but since it smells similar to the version from La Collection I decided that it was “close enough”. I keep looking at different eBay listings but I’m affraid to try – not only because I’m afraid to lose money but also because I will be really disappointed if I get another fake. I still hope that one day I’ll be able to buy it from a trusted sourse.

    Thank you for the informative post.

    • It can be a very frustrating experience trying to find the Climat that matches one’s memories because the fake juice is so incredibly prevalent. I cherish my limited stash of the real deal. Real Climat parfum from the 1980s is so incredibly balanced and lovely, every time I wear it I feel like I’m floating on some heavenly cloud. Oh my, I’m getting myself ‘hot and bothered’ just talking about it. lol! Thanks so much for sharing your thoughts, I wish you much luck in your search. :)

  3. Hello!!! It was maybe two days as ma tryied to find Climat! because my friend> living in Ukraine got this nice memory in her feels and head> it was her first perfume!and it was a real Climat> what she bought in the begining 80’s/ I had in that time Miss Dior!the small flacon 7 ml only!I want to say that now nobody in Ukraine or Russia have this Climat! I found here in article – it is possible producting here. No.No.It is producting some where else! It si pity! Lancome have now this fragrance collection and have new form 75 ml and it is EDT!
    so! what to do! have a nice dream! or send this blog to Lancome! and tell them how much we love and miss about vintage Climat!
    and.. want to say.. lets these fake Climat just a fake!no very very close! give us nice nostalgy and give us fell we are the best when wear them!!!
    FOR ANY CONNECTION – i BE HAPPY RECEIVE some emails from you on my address perlaita@rambler,ru
    Svitlana, ukranien, living now in France

    • Thank you for sharing your thoughts, Svetlana! I know that Climat was very popular in Ukraine and Russia back in the 80s. The many fake bottles of Climat that are on the market right now are manufactured independently and come from different places: some fake Climat comes from Ukraine, some from Russia, some from Romania, some from Western Europe, some from Turkey or the Middle East. I have received 3 fake bottles of Climat parfum and all 3 of them had a connection to Ukraine.
      The intoxicating Climat fragrance does not exist anymore. It’s very sad.

  4. Great post! Just went to check my two 14 ml bottles and both are fake. One has actually almost completely evaporated due to an ill fitting stopper – I’d be beyond heartbroken if it had been real. Checked ebay and one is going for $1,900. Can’t afford even close to that amount, so I wanted to ask about the edt versions. Are the older edts also faked and are they at all close in beauty to the parfum (which I bought back in the early 80s, but due to complicated associations gave up wearing until recently when it seems I am too late to get the real thing again)? I almost always stick with parfum versions since I prefer their richness, but I’m willing to venture into edt land if the price point of the parfum is as prohibitive as this one appears to be.
    Ann

    • Thanks, Ann! Ugh, sorry to hear that your Climat parfum stash turned out to both be fake, but the fakes certainly vastly outnumber the real by a huge margin, so it’s not surprising. You asked about EDT version: I have a 45ml spray bottle of older EDT. Mine is an aerosol “continuous” spray and I’m not sure if the propellant inside has interfered with the smell at all. The scent does indeed have the characteristic tart-floral Climat accord, but it very much lacks the complexity, development, and high quality basenotes of the 80s parfum. Also something about it smells “off” or slightly musty to me when I sniff with nose to wrist, although I find the wafting sillage to be quite lovely. I am not sure if any of the vintage Climat EDT sprays are manufactured fakes, but I would imagine that some of the EDT splash bottles have been filled with fake juice. I really don’t know how common this is, as my focus is solely on the parfum (which is, in my opinion, heaven in a bottle!). The vintage EDT spray bottles can generally be found on Ebay for a decent price, so you might try one. I’ve also noticed the “deodorant” Parfum de Toilette version. I don’t know if those are legit or not, but I’m kind of curious about them. Hope this helps!

  5. Thank you so much for this post. My mom used to have original climat. It was long time ago and I can still remember that scent. I DREAM of having original climat! Do you know where I can buy real climat? :) I hope I can find them.

    • Hi, Kristina. A bottle of the real Climat parfum from the 1980s is a very rare thing indeed. Unfortunately, I don’t know where you would find one, although a real bottle will show up from time to time and tends to sell for upwards of $300(!).

  6. Hello, Kristina! My name is Anya and I really ask for your help! My mom bought 2 of these fake bottles on ebay recently and now to return the money we were asked us to send a document to PayPal from someone who is qualified in the area of the item (other than us). Since you are qualified, have the real vintage Climat and know so much about fakes… would you be so kind to help me and my mom to punish the seller who sells these fakes! I got all the information and can provide you with everything, it is not really too hard to put everything together in a pdf document. But if you find a bit of time, you would really help! Thanks in advance, Kristina. Please contact me if you could. I wish you very best!

    • So sorry, no idea how to edit my message! I actually thought your name is Kristina… so terribly sorry :)

      • Hi Anya, I’m so sorry that your mother purchased some fake bottles of Climat, but I do not wish to get involved in someone’s Paypal dispute. I’m sorry…I hope you can get your mother’s money back.

  7. I was interested to read your article regarding Climat perfume. I had the eau de toilette bottle back in 80/90’s and absolutely loved it and have always yearned for another bottle. It’s sad to learn that it isn’t manufactured any more but searching on line, I noticed that Selfridges are selling a 75ml eau de toilette bottle which is a different style to the original. Surely they can’t be selling fake perfume? What’s your opinion on this? Thanks

    • Hi Karen, I believe the 75ml EDT spray is the only Climat that is still officially in production. I have not tried the current version so I can’t comment on the scent, but it is indeed legit. It has almost certainly been reformulated from the 80s/90s versions, just as the La Collection Climat EDP from 2005 was reformulated (it smelled quite different from the 80s/90s version, although still fairly recognizable and pleasant in its own way). If you end up purchasing, please report back on how it compares to the earlier EDT that you remember!

      • Hi again, being the curious person I am, I emailed Lancôme directly and today received the following response which I thought might be of interest to you.

        “Climat was recently repacked but it is the fragrance created in 1967.

        “Created in 1967, this fragrance takes its name from the well-known eponymous novel by French author André Maurois. Climat is a floral, musky, aldehyde fragrance, a rich swirl of rose and narcissus with a sandalwood base, exactly the kind of perfume children tend to associate with their mother. It has a distinctive “Mother’s kiss before the party” olfactive signature. “

        It can be found in Selfridges & Harrods only.”

        Regards, Karen Lawson

      • Thanks Karen! I knew that the EDT spray was the only version of Climat that is still in production, but I think it is somewhat untrue for them to state that it is the original 1967 fragrance, as it has been reformulated several times. I’m still very interested in what the current EDT smells like, if you get some please do comment on how it matches your memory of the vintage EDT you used to use. :-)

      • I’m really curious now too about what it’s like but will need to save my pennies, (or wait until my birthday!) before I can discover this fragrance again. I just hope it lives up to my memories and doesn’t shatter my illusions!! Anyway, I shall keep you posted when the joyous occasion happens!!

  8. Hi ladies I can honestly say that it is original – at least for me. I bought 2 bottles of Climat 75ml EDT in Paris recently. It is made in France for Lancome and smells just as I remember it from the late 70’s. I have bought Climat over the years and only once or twice have I found it didn’t smell as I recalled it. If I am transported back to the late 70’s I know I am buying real Climat. I have kept many of my bottles over the years. I am yet however to come across authentic Climat parfum. If you see the EDT it is well worth getting it especially if it is duty free.

    • Hi again, goodness, I feel like I’m becoming obsessed with this and on some sort of mission here but I’ve been in touch with Selfridges perfumery and they are prepared to send me a card with the fragrance sprayed on to allow me to ‘test’ it before purchase (as this is the only way I can do it, living so far away from their stores). So, I shall report back when it arrives!! I’m so excited!! How crazy am I?!!

      • I can completely relate to your Climat obsession, Karen, although mine is for the 80s/90s parfum! I hope the card they send you is an accurate representation of the current EDT. Please share your thoughts when you receive it. :-)

  9. Karen, Harrods wasn’t actively carrying it on their site. Selfrige’s does, for about 66 pounds. However they don’t ship outside of the UK according to their website in regards to international shipping. I may have to order it and send it to my friend in Wales and have him ship it to me. I have now bought 2 bottles of the fake stuff. Got refunded on the 1st bottle because I have the real thing in my closet (even a real bottle of the parfum from the original release, my mother brought it over with us from the former USSR) and was adamant that it was a fake. Now I am dealing with the 2nd seller. I wish I had ran across PerfumeFountain’s blog before I tried to buy any of it. So disappointed. I have been hoarding even my EDP splash from the re-release (bought at Saks) to wear on very special occassions, keeping it in a dark place inside its box. *sigh*

  10. Hi, i got a 420ml bottle Eau de Toilette Climat from Lancome (Ref. No: 6784). It has a black screw cap and it is not used. It was a present about 30 years ago. May you can tell if it is a real one? Thanks in advance for your feedback. Kind Regards T. Gerber

    • Hi there. :-) I’m quite sure it’s real, there is no reason to think it would be a fake. Climat was not widely faked 30 years ago. The question is, does it still smell as it should?
      You have a very rare item on your hands, a 14 oz Climat EDT. That sounds HUGE! If you ever wish to sell it you could get quite a bit of money for that.

  11. Guess what?I was just about to pay 65 quid for a bottle of Climat currently for sale on Amazon by Colognia company (?) ,specialising in discontinued fragrances.There are quite a few (about 1.55o something) positive feedbacks almost made me believe I`m not doing something utterly stupid.
    Thanks for the article ,
    Mel.x

    • Hi Mel! If it was EDT that you were considering then it may very well be authentic. But it was a 14ml bottle of parfum conentration then it was almost certainly a fake. I’m glad my article may have stopped you from making a costly mistake!

      • Hello again, thanks for your answer :) Do you know a platform where I can get information about the worth of this parfum or do you have an idea? Or a specialist for rare items like this? I surfed the whole internet and I couldnt find something useful. It would really wonder me what you think about… Regards and Thanks again :)

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        See for yourself.*NOT edp,100% genuine *

      • Mel: Yes, that was absolutely one of the fake Climat parfums.

  12. I forgot: I think it smells like it should because the bottle has been opened about 10 times since these 30 years. But I can not really evaluate it, I dont know how it should smell exactly…

    • Hi T. Gerber! Hopefully your Climat EDT has been stored in its box away from light, and away from heat. Light and heat are bad for perfumes.

      Your bottle is certainly worth hundreds of dollars, likely over $500. I have never seen a 14 oz bottle of Climat EDT, but I have seen a few 8 oz bottles come onto Ebay. They inevitably sell for hundreds of dollars. For example, see this completed listing for an 8 oz bottle of Climat:

      http://www.ebay.com/itm/HUGE-VINTAGE-LANCOME-CLIMAT-EAU-DE-TOILETTE-SEALED-BOX-8-oz-RARE-Ref-4-69-6783-/200827151479?nma=true&si=%252Bt0HJgtLYuwK8yFGEW5FgcYDH6Q%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

      This bottle was listed at $649 but the seller accepted a lower offer, certainly of several hundred dollars.

      If you would like to sell your bottle for the highest possible price, you really should list it on Ebay. If you are comfortable with international shipping, then you will want to list it on U.S. Ebay to get the widest exposure for your listing. You also have several choices regarding the listing. You can set a “Buy It Now” price and wait for someone to purchase it….or you can set a “Buy It Now” price while also accepting people’s highest offers…or you can do a regular auction where you set the starting price and then people bid on it. There is a risk that the item can get lost in the mail, so you would want to ship it with the highest level of security and with delivery confirmation. No one can tell you *exactly* how much your bottle is worth, but I can tell you that it is absolutely worth several hundred dollars.

  13. Hello, I found a bottle of this today and listed it on ebay. I think it’s genuine, can you help me? It is sealed so I am not sure I should open it?

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290871087213

    • Hi Sandy, That looks like a totally authentic 1980s Climat parfum to me. The only question is the provenance of the item, because there are recently manufactured fakes that come sealed in that style of box. But your box looks old and thus it is almost certainly authentic. Congrats on a great find! Where did you stumble upon this item, if you don’t mind my asking?

  14. Thanks! I got it at a thrift store. I went ahead and opened it and took pics and re-did the listing. I did not open the bottle. I think its real too, looks exactly like the bottle you showed above and it has the guarantee paper.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/290871120223?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649

  15. Also the wrapper had shelf wear on the bottom and was dirty so it looked old, when I took it off the box inside was really nice.

  16. Dear PerfumeFountain,hello…….would like to have your advise if you could look at this bottle as stated in Sandy’s link above. I would like to buy it for my mom on her bday…She always remembers them with exact the same love and passion as you did in your blog……thank You

  17. Hello. Could you please tell me your opinion about this parfum on ebay. The bottle looks right, but the color seems off to me. Although, the cameras and lights are different for everyone, still this looks kind of too light to me. What do you think? Thank you very much.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/CLIMAT-LANCOME-parfum-splash-47-fl-oz-14-ml-VINTAGE-AUTHENTIC-/121090220051?pt=fragrance&hash=item1c318a2013

    • Hi Anna, It is not authentic but it may still smell very similar. It’s best to avoid the boxes with the gold square on them, all of them are pretty much fakes. This seller used to sell some that might possibly have been real about a year ago, but then his stock ran out and he replenished his stock with some inexpensive, fake stock that he found on Ebay. It is not real Climat, but again, the smell might resemble the real thing. (And you are right the bottle appears to look okay at first glance, however the lettering is way too bold and there are some slight ink smudges. No part of this item is real, unfortunately.)

  18. In your opinion, what parfum that is currently available, resembles climat the most ? Thank you

    • Hi Elvera, I think that Climat is very unique and there are no perfumes that smell like it. However, I do think that Tendre Poison by Dior resembles Climat a bit. I only smelled it once on a tester strip and it did remind me of Climat in certain ways.
      I have also read online that Miss Dior Cherie L’eau smells somewhat like Climat but I have never tried that one.

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  20. I have a bottle of Climat pure perfume – sealed 7cc which I believe is 7.5mls – I believe it to be original but wonder if anyone can enlighten me. It has no square on the front and has white writing. Help?

    • Hi there! If the box is grayish-blue with white, “rough cursive” Climat lettering, then it sounds like you could have the so-called “winter” version, which was an earlier version of Climat packaging that was the norm before about 1980 (< which is when the box was changed to the vivid blue marbleized design). If your box of 7cc pure parfum is still sealed in cellophane, then that is a rare treasure indeed! Lucky you!

      • Hi – thanks so much for your expertise – YES – sounds like that’s the one I have. How exciting.

      • Hi, I want to sell the 7cc winter version Climat perfume on Ebay (which I guess is the best way to go about it) – it is cellophane sealed and in mint condition – any idea how much I might get for it? Also, I know there’s a lot of interest in perfumery from abroad/USA but am concerned about mailing rules where perfume is concerned. Any advice on both matters would be much appreciated. Thank you

      • Ros: I would think it would fetch between $100 to $200, but it could also go higher than that – but I would be surprised if it does. You never know though. :-)

        It’s true that it is illegal to ship perfumes internationally (or by air domestically) but many people do it, they just write something different on the customs form. If your Ebay auction is open to international bidders, it will most likely fetch more money. However, you have to choose the international shipping option that you feel most comfortable with (i.e. maybe you want a higher level of security, or want a confirmation of delivery, etc.). I used to sell internationally in my auctions and my items always arrived safely, but I don’t anymore because I don’t like the stress of wondering if my item might get lost, etc. Good luck!

      • Hi, Thank you – that’s very helpful. I’ll have a think about which way to go on this.

      • Ros: You know, I’m just not sure about your pre-1980s “Winter-box” version. My focus is solely on the ’80s perfume in the bright blue, marble box, and my value estimate was based on what a sealed 7ml 80s version would likely fetch. But your earlier version could be worth significantly more. I know there is an equally high demand for those earlier productions of Climat. So really, I would find it very difficult to estimate the value of your sealed Winter Climat, since that’s not the version that is my specialty. :-)

      • Hi, Ok – thank you – I’ll have to think a bit harder on how to go on this. The mailing problem is causing a lot of grief for people which doesn’t help matters. Thanks once again for your kind advice and help.

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  22. Thank you so much for your article. I have just bought a fake Climat with gold square on the box… absolutely frustrated

    • You’re welcome, Zalina! So sad that you bought a fake Climat – it happens to most Climat lovers at some time or another, unfortunately. In general, people should avoid the Climat with the gold square on the box. Those are bad, bad, bad! :-(

      • Thank you very much for your reply to my comment! I would appreciate if you help me in viewing and analyzing other photos that are being currently sent by the girl who had sold me the fake gold- square box Climat. The first fake doesn’t even have the word PARFUM on the bottle. Now she is wanting to replace it with another one also from the box with gold square. However this time it contains all the words, but i must say on the photo the lettering on the bottle looks a bit strange. i wish you could have a look and give me your experienced opinion. If it is impossible, no problem . I will understand. Thanks again.

      • Hi, Zalina! Sure, I am happy to take a look at the photos. Can you link to them? If not, let me know and I’ll email you so you can just send photos to my regular email.

  23. Dear ( sorry, unfortunately i do not know your name). Thank you very much! Here is my email address (removed),com Please send me a test email so that i could then send the photos yo you. Thank you for your kind assistance. Regards, Zalina

  24. Thank you so much for your time and warning about another possible wrong purchase.
    I wish I could become of help some day so that to thank you more.
    What you do for people is very kind. Internet has both merits and demerits. It can open a window for one who lives isolated for a variety of reasons, but on the other hand one should be cautious, especially at such matter like purchasing a perfume.
    Now when I have your reply, I am not going to buy another fake from her, and will try to find the real Climat using your tips and recommendations.
    Thank you very much again. May God bless you for your kindness and big heart.
    Warm regards,
    Zalina

  25. hi,thanks for en exelent blog,i am not a blogger i just saw it by accident.i bought 3 climat en ebay a few days ego,the first one just got today end it is definetely fake.i am so disappointed!

  26. i new that it is very rare this gorgeouos perfume,but had no idea of so many fake perfumes en e bay

  27. “We are very sorry to here that .All boxes sealed ,absolutely new. If you like purchase another one, we will ship to you for free .The item you bought it is right now only $53.00 and shipping to your country cost$10 we will give you discount on shipping ,or you can buy same thing else we will give you 10%discount” ——–that is the answer i got from seller

  28. Very interesting post… I would want to know what do you think about my last acquisition of Climat (in Russia), but I can’t attach the photo! How can I do it? Thanks…

    • Thank you, Elena. :-) If you wish to share a picture, you need to upload the picture to a photo-hosting site, and then post the link to the picture in your comment.

      • Now I don’t have the photo of pack, but I will able to do it in the evening. On the bottom of the box there is code CP286. If I know well it means approximately 1994, how do you think?
        The smell is precious, very similar to ‘old’ version, maybe a little bit lighter, not ‘oilysh’.

        And what do you know about rare old version with pink-n-blue-n-black ribbon?

      • Hi Elena, the Climat in your pictures is unfortunately a typical fake Climat parfum. It comes in the blue marble box with the gold square. It is not authentic, although it might smell nice and similar to old Climat. If you enjoy the scent you definitely should wear it!

        The version of Climat with pink, blue, & black ribbon comes from before 1979. The scent was a bit different as well as the packaging. Then in 1979 Climat was reformulated & repackaged.

      • You upset me((((… What a pity!
        But thanks for expertizing, next time I will try to be more attentively. You are right, it is very difficult to find autentic Climat in Russia because of even true old owners can’t know what they had so many years… But I will continue the search! ))

  29. Ok, and what can you say about such item: (not mine)

    it is with pink ribbon, but I don’t trust it is so old…

    • Hi Elena, Well I am not as knowledgeable about the older version of Climat, but I do not believe that the color of the liquid was green in the older version. The older version with pink, blue, and black ribbon had amber liquid, not green. So I believe that the bottle in your picture has been re-filled – the contents of this bottle are not original.

  30. An intriguing discussion is worth comment. I do think
    that you need to publish more on this issue, it might not be a
    taboo matter but generally people do not talk about these subjects.
    To the next! Many thanks!!

  31. Dear PerfumeFountain,
    Thank you so much for the most complete review and tips on this wonderful perfume. I wish that Lancome can read this blog and bring to the market original old formula 14ml Climat parfum.

  32. I envy you I’m still buying “toilet water ” from the local mall store hoping for the same scent I had in the 70’s

  33. I recently viewed ebay and saw several lancome climat in a sealed brown box with black and blue abstract designs on it. I don’t know much about perfume so I don’t know if that is an old packaging or new packaging or what. It sure is expensive and seller claims it is 100% authentic. Please help.

    • Hi Rose, I’m not sure which box you are describing when you say “sealed brown box with black & blue abstract designs,” however I am assuming that you’re referring to the box with the gold square. In some lighting, this square on the front of the box can appear brown, orange, or yellow. These boxes are not authentic Climat parfum, they are fakes. I hope that helps!

  34. Thank you very much for this priceless information. I’m so sad that I used my last drop of Climat. Looks like chance to fine another real one is zero. I don’t understand, demand is so high, what was the reason they stop?Could you please let me know what do you think about climat spray? I have real one, but in my opinion it is too weak. Thank you again, Gayane

    • Hi Gayane, You can still find real vintage Climat parfum, however it will almost certainly cost you an arm & a leg! Climat has always had a very limited availability, and has been discontinued & relaunched several times in its history. I am not sure of the reason for this unusual history, but I do think that vintage Climat contained real sandalwood in the basenotes, and perhaps other costly natural ingredients (which were clearly missing from the La Collection re-release of 2005), so perhaps that has something to do with why the older version was halted.

      When you say “Climat spray,” I’m not sure what you’re referring to. Do you mean the EDT spray with black cap? I have an authentic vintage 2.5 oz EDT spray from the 90s that smells very beautiful, but I have bought several fake 2.5 oz Climat EDT sprays with black cap that smell horrible. There are subtle differences in the packaging to tell them apart. If you’re referring to the current EDT spray with the gold cap, I haven’t tried it but I’m positive it doesn’t smell like the old stuff. :-/

  35. I recently bought some Climat soap in a navy container with goldish lettering,would this be genuine or fake do you think?I could provide photos…

  36. I love Climat – my mom wore it and I always think of her when I smell it. I last purchased Lancome’s Climat in 2006 or 2007 at the Lancome counter in Nordstrom in University Towne Center here in La Jolla, CA – they had re-released, for a very short time, 4 of their classic perfumes; Climat, Maggie, Sagamore and Sikkim – the “The Lancome La Collection.” I purchased a full ounce – in a beautiful bottle and box – not like any of the vintage one you’ve shown here – it was a taller rectangular bottle and it came in a white box. Anyway…last year I made the HUGE mistake of purchasing a bottle of Climat on Fragrence.net – came in the vintage shape in the blue box…my daughters and I concurred it smelled like hairspray. I was so disappointed. I then saw a story about how counterfeit versions were being produced in the Ukraine and Eastern Europe. Amazing… I am hoping someday Lancome will re-release the Lancome La Collection again! Thank you for your wonderful and informative article!

    • Yes, the 2005-2006 La Collection re-release of Climat was pretty nice and did bare a resemblance to earlier Climat, but some of the magic was gone. It’s missing the powdery sandalwood-y basenotes of the older version. I’ve heard from several people that they really like La Collection version. I find it pleasant enough, but my heart is with the older version. ;-)
      Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

  37. I didn’t realize the re-release smelled that much different than the original. It still reminded me of my mom. I’ve kept my empty bottle from 2006 and I will open it up every once in awhile just to smell the beautiful fragrance – which surprisingly, given that it is 8 years old, has held up very well. Many thanks again for being such a wealth of information!!! :-) :-)

  38. Thanks for your information on fake perfume.
    I first bought this gorgeous scent in America, and have tried many times to get it here.
    I will be very wary about buying it now
    Can you give mw the name of a reliable supplier.
    Thank you for your help.

  39. My Mum is having a clear out and has lots of perfumes etc she was given as gifts during the 1960s and 1970s. A lot have not been opened at all. I have started to sell them on ebay and last week I put on a sealed 7ml bottle of Climat parfum still in its promotional Christmas wrapping. I put it on at £14.99 thinking it probably would not sell. I was stunned at the interest and final selling price. You have just answered why, so thank you.
    I gave the money to my Mum who looked just as shocked as I had been. She got up, went through to the bathroom, and came back with another bottle! (this one is EDT though) Got to the love the oldies, they knew how to look after their belongings!

    What’s even more strange is that I will never know the shape of the bottle in the box I sold, nor the smell of it!

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